Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

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Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby LakeSide on 29 Sep 2008, 14:01

I found this wasp this summer in The Netherlands on a wooden barrier. Is it possible to iD it from these photo's?

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Thank you in advance,

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Re: Ichneumonidae

Postby LakeSide on 30 Sep 2008, 23:42

Anyone?
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Re: Ichneumonidae

Postby Camille Thirion on 01 Oct 2008, 01:13

The head points out Xoridiinae but without another proof! :roll:
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Re: Ichneumonidae

Postby Robert Nash on 01 Oct 2008, 10:07

The head may be described as a rounded isosceles trapezoid perhaps and it does seem diagnostic for Xoridinae to judge from illustrations.Not much to go on but it is all we have.So unless anyone else has a different opinion Xoridinae.Not as rare as the literature suggests? Robert
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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby LakeSide on 01 Oct 2008, 11:31

Thank you both. I've never even heard of Xoridinae!
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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby Eckart Stolle on 05 Oct 2008, 16:21

May we use your pictures for our gallery?

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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby LakeSide on 06 Oct 2008, 08:22

Eckart Stolle wrote:May we use your pictures for our gallery?

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Of course you may. I don't know if you can take them out of this thread, but if not here's the link to my Hymenoptera gallery on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuclearlakeside/sets/72157601483151103/

You may use any photo you find interesting or usefull. I remember Christian asking for my Andrena rosae photo's, but I haven't seem them on the site yet, so feel free to use those as well.
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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby Eckart Stolle on 06 Oct 2008, 10:20

f course you may. I don't know if you can take them out of this thread, but if not here's the link to my Hymenoptera gallery on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuclearlak ... 483151103/

You may use any photo you find interesting or usefull. I remember Christian asking for my Andrena rosae photo's, but I haven't seem them on the site yet, so feel free to use those as well.


Nice, Thanks!

Ja we are collecting always a while and put them on the website only every few month because they have to get integrated into the database and the collegue who's making that does not always have so much time.

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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby Eckart Stolle on 06 Oct 2008, 10:27

PS

This pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuclearlak ... 483151103/

it very much looks like a Proctotrupidae --> the end of the abdomen is rather typical. Do u have another pic of that one? Species ID could be possible and i have those also inm collecting. Maybe post it separately then others also can confim.

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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby Camille Thirion on 06 Oct 2008, 12:35

The subject is perhaps to put elsewhere, I would like to however draw your attention!

The galleries do not mention the author of the identifications, it is however a intellectual property according to International Conventions'!
While thus acting, the work of the entomologists is also devaluated!

Another problem, from the identifiers will refuse me their assistance because their name does not appear beside that of the author of the photograph!

I ask you to think of this problem!

I still underline that without the name of the identifier, the quality of information cannot be estimated!

Thank you for your reading!
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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby LakeSide on 07 Oct 2008, 10:43

Eckart Stolle wrote:PS

This pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nuclearlak ... 483151103/

it very much looks like a Proctotrupidae --> the end of the abdomen is rather typical. Do u have another pic of that one? Species ID could be possible and i have those also inm collecting. Maybe post it separately then others also can confim.

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Sorry Eckart, I have no other photo's of this species. It was rather small (about 0.3 - 0.5 cm) and took off soon after I took this photo.
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Re: Ichneumonidae --> Xoridinae?

Postby Jacek Hilszczanski on 29 Jul 2010, 13:30

On first picture is most probably Xorides fuligator (Thunb.), but on two others is poemenine Neoxorides sp.

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