Holopyga ignicollis?

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Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby gbooth on 26 Feb 2009, 17:08

This is a small one shot in Sierra Nevada, S Spain, at 1800 masl. 29/June/2008.
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Re: Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby chrysis on 26 Feb 2009, 17:32

sorry
this time I cannot help you.
It could be ignicollis or jurinei, or something else.
With Holopyga species the identification based only on the picture is more difficult than with other Chrysidids.

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Re: Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby gbooth on 26 Feb 2009, 18:17

Thanks Paolo,
I guess I get to enthusiastic.
Cheers,

Guillermo
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Re: Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby gbooth on 26 Feb 2009, 18:20

According to Mingo, H. jurinei is dark blue, while this one is clearly green with golden reflections.
No?
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Re: Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby chrysis on 26 Feb 2009, 18:53

Yes, I know, but I think Mingo made a little bit of confusion.
In all Europe jurinei has green, green dull thorax, sometimes with golden reflection on pronotum and always with a black spot on the anterior part of the scutum of the mesothorax. This peculiar colour of the thorax can help you in separating this species from ignicollis; but sometimes is not so easy and you have to study the punctuation on the second sternite.
Occasionally is blue, but it is very very rare and this colour is caused by an exceed of alcohol or other chemicals.
The sistematics of the genus Holopyga is very complicated, because no one chrysidologist studied all the types.
Probably Kimsey & Bohart 1990 were right considering jurinei as a synonym of chrysonota. Now I'm writing the Italian Fauna and in a few months I could publish some interesting conclusion on these species.
However in Spain you also have other species similar to the one in your picture.

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Re: Holopyga ignicollis?

Postby gbooth on 26 Feb 2009, 19:28

Thanks Paolo,

I will leave it as Holphyga sp. then.

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