Braconidae(?) parasitoids of Acronicta rumicis

[Rui Andrade]

I found a dead Acronicta rumicis larva on the 29th of September in Barcelos, Portugal. It was parasitized by wasps. I think they may belong to Braconidae, what is your opinion? As you can see, the two adults of the top photos are different from each other and both seem to be female. Different species?

[Rui Andrade]

And these ones, no idea too? At least the family would be nice .

[Bilule]

I see Ichneumonidae rather than Braconidae (but I often see wrong )

[Rui Andrade]

Thank you Bilule. To me they resemble Braconidae...

Does anyone know someone who I can ask whenever I have braconids or ichneumonids to identify?

[Robert Nash]

Diadegma Ichneumonidae but wait for Camille

[Camille Thirion]

The form of the areola seems to me rather a rhombus what brings me to Mesochorinae, in Taxapad one speaks ex- rumicis Mesochorus semirufus.....mais it is only assumption!!!!

[Robert Nash]

Compares well with the type genus images on this Japanese site http://cse.naro.affrc.go.jp/konishi/mokuroku/mesoch.html.So either Campopleginae or Mesochorinae with Mesochorinae the best assumption.Maybe someone working on Acronicta will know.The keys are hopeless for me.

[Rui Andrade]

So Bilule was right, they are ichneumonids . Thank you very much Robert and Camille .

[Eckart Stolle]

Hi.
May we use your picture(s) for our gallery here in HymIS? (Dont know if i already asked). Of course its properly credited.

Cheers & Thanks already!
Eckart

[Rui Andrade]

Yes. Sorry for the delay.

[Eckart Stolle]

Thx Rui!