TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya montana [PT][ID D&JP Balmer]

TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya montana [PT][ID D&JP Balmer]

Postby CarlosMMSilva on 20 Mar 2017, 00:25

Hi.
Forgotten photos of a Symphyta specime.
Portugal,Sabugal,PE76/PT86,2014 Jun.,21
Thank you.
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TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp.(.)[2014,Sabugal,PE76-PE86_Quadrazais,Foios]_P1270225-002.JPG
TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]
TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp.(.)[2014,Sabugal,PE76-PE86_Quadrazais,Foios]_P1270215-002.JPG
TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp. [PT]

Postby D & JP Balmer on 20 Mar 2017, 03:21

Hello,

Perhaps Macrophya (M.) crassula (Klug, 1817) , ? : because the base of Femora 2 is not visible.
Sex ?

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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp. [PT]

Postby CarlosMMSilva on 23 Mar 2017, 03:47

Hi.
Thanks for the hypothesis. After i'll try to see if had something usefull for that caracteristic.
The Genus you said isn't registered on Naturdata site, but that ..doesn't means nothing special..
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp. [PT]

Postby D & JP Balmer on 23 Mar 2017, 17:07

D & JP Balmer wrote:Hello,

Perhaps Macrophya (M.) crassula (Klug, 1817) , ? : because the base of Femora 2 is not visible.

Hello,
It is not crassula !
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Tenthredo sp. [PT]

Postby CarlosMMSilva on 24 Mar 2017, 02:48

Hi.
I really don't know if have some photos that give an answer to the base of Femora 2, but here are two more.
Thank you again.
Carlos M. Moreira da Silva
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[2014,Sabugal,PE86_Foios]_P1270218.JPG
TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]
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TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]

Postby D & JP Balmer on 25 Mar 2017, 15:01

Hello,
Macrophya (M.) montana (Scopoli 1763) ♀ !
The identification is certain.
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]

Postby CarlosMMSilva on 25 Mar 2017, 15:29

Thank you D & JP Balmer, for another identification and, i imagine, another new specie and genus, at least on Naturdata site.
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya sp. [PT][Genus sug.D&JP Balmer]

Postby D & JP Balmer on 25 Mar 2017, 23:34

CarlosMMSilva wrote:Thank you D & JP Balmer, for another identification and, i imagine, another new specie and genus, at least on Naturdata site.
Thanks. Carlos
Hello,
For Portuguese mainland see http://212.201.100.113/distribution.php .
But attention, this site is not always up to date.
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Re: TENTHREDINIDAE Macrophya montana [PT][ID D&JP Balmer]

Postby CarlosMMSilva on 29 Mar 2017, 00:10

Hi D&JP Balmer.
Usually i don't use it in spite of ocasional uses.
Usually use more specific sites (for instance for spiders: 'Spiders of Greenland' (filtred for Portugal mainland)-
That's a problem for whom taht take photos on every class!
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