Campopleginae => cf. Phobocampe sp.

Campopleginae => cf. Phobocampe sp.

Postby Marion on 21 Sep 2017, 10:53

Hello,
I assume it is a Campopleginae. The body length is 6 mm.
Its larva hatched from a dead Geometridae caterpillar and started to spin a cocoon. On the picture it is still inside the larval skin. Two weeks later the wasp hatched.
(I found the caterpillar in a forest in Germany on 5th September 2017.)
Is ID possible?

Thanks, Marion
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Re: Campopleginae

Postby Camille Thirion on 21 Sep 2017, 12:13

Not,abdomen petiolate

Cell of the wing???

Cryptinae or Ichneumoninae
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Re: Campopleginae

Postby Marion on 21 Sep 2017, 12:53

Thank you, Camille.
Sorry, I posted twice the same picture. I exchanged it with the right one. I will try to get some better pictures, but now the wasp is too quick.

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Re: Campopleginae

Postby tlegrand on 21 Sep 2017, 19:47

It reminds me of Phobocampe sp. (Campopleginae) but I don't know this subfamily very well !

The Caterpillar look like a Biston sp.
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Re: Campopleginae

Postby Marion on 22 Sep 2017, 17:25

Thank you, tlegrand, also for determination of the caterpillar. I assumed, that the caterpillar could be a Biston betularia, but nobody answered my question in the lepiforum. Now I have photos of the wings. I hope that they are helpful for ID.

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Re: Campopleginae

Postby Camille Thirion on 22 Sep 2017, 21:25

Ok with view of the areolet!
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Re: Campopleginae => cf. Phobocampe sp.

Postby Marion on 24 Sep 2017, 10:46

Thank you very much.
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