Black with yellow tibiae

Black with yellow tibiae

Postby rafael_carbonell on 31 Aug 2017, 22:18

This black ichneumon wasp, with yellow tibiae was on a Lycopersicon tomato leave. [Iberian Peninsula: Catalonia: Girona; Beuda, 395 m a.s.l., 4th august 2017]

Note that it seems to have notaulil lines quite impressed on thorax. Could this be Lycorinae?

Pictures are a out of focus :oops: , but any idea :idea: , "jizz" or suggestion will be wellcommed, even about the subfamily. Thanks in advance! :P
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby tlegrand on 31 Aug 2017, 23:08

This is a Metopiinae I think, but I'm not sure which Genus ?
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby rafael_carbonell on 01 Sep 2017, 00:56

That's ok, thanks!!
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby Camille Thirion on 01 Sep 2017, 10:25

Discoido-cubital non fusionnées après éclaircissement, tête très transverse, thorax bosselé!

Error possible, Symphytes perhaps for me!
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby tlegrand on 01 Sep 2017, 10:52

Camille are you sure ?
For me this is certainly not a Symphyta

I have this picture of a Chorinaeus sp. (Metopiinae) dt Dr. J. Kolarov which look pretty similar with at least a central groove on the thorax
but I don't know the other possible similar Genus

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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby Camille Thirion on 01 Sep 2017, 15:23

Possible!!!
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby rafael_carbonell on 01 Sep 2017, 21:18

Wooooww !! It looks very similar to female Macrophya montana in legs colour, and also wing venation has some similar pattern. I have had to make a photoshop collage (including Macrophya montana wing from
http://www.bioimages.org.uk/html/r168058.htm), the picture of Chorinaeus (thanks) just to show is not like Symphyta and more like Chorinaeus or other Ichneumonidae. But with some veins it's difficult to say which veins are from one wing or the other below.
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Re: Black with yellow tibiae

Postby Camille Thirion on 01 Sep 2017, 21:20

OK
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